View Full Version : Share Your Opinion To Improve HAF


deserthonda
10-26-2007, 04:07 PM
I was sitting here wondering how we can make HAF even better for current members and more inviting to non-members than what it already is ..

And i though who better to ask than all of you ..

I would like to read your inputs ..the dos and the do not.the good and the bad that you feel exist here at HAF .How can we improve are good and eliminate our bad ..
. and please feel free to speak honestly and freely .

Now,, that does not mean that we will do as it is suggested BUT i will personally and i am sure other MODS and ADMIN will read these, and if we feel that some of your suggestions are beneficial to our forum and all of its members , We will evaluate them and use them

And please .. keep your suggestion REALISTICLY OBTAINABLE ;)

Thanks :)
Gianni ...

Trav20
10-26-2007, 05:05 PM
Different format? I know atleast 2 other forums(don't have to do with honda) with this exact format:(. Would that be possible. It could be like "our forum is nothing like the others" kind of vibe:D

accords own
10-27-2007, 02:50 AM
it would be cool if the "car of the month" thread was kept up with. a bunch of people were nominated for september, and then the voting never happened.

smaglik
10-27-2007, 02:55 AM
allow me to scroll easily to the next thread when i have searched for the posts since my last visit. its a pita to keep hitting the back button, especially with all the invisible ad pages in there.

sir_nasty
10-27-2007, 10:58 AM
I don't know how easy it is to do that but it's a great idea. Just a side note if you hit the backspace key it will/should act like you pressed the back button (as long as you aren't in a text field) That's my little navigation tip/trick.

smaglik
10-27-2007, 11:10 AM
good idea.

MacLeod
10-27-2007, 11:31 AM
My only complaint is the format. Its a little too convoluted and hard to keep track of things. The ads are also distracting but I understand without them, there wouldnt be a HAF.

I post on the Polk Audio forum regularly and believe it has a very good layout and format.

Tony1M
10-27-2007, 11:40 AM
If it would not gum up the works, I think it would be advantageousif everyone used more photos when either explaining a problem, or explaining a solution. Most times a good photo is indeed worth a thousand words, even though it's a bit of a PITA to take, edit, and post them.

I think it deserves at least a bit of thought to consider that an aboslutely perfect HAF -a place where the solution to every Accordproblem could befound with just a few clicks -wouldprobably have a great many"veiws", butquite possiblyvery few new posts.

Theoretically, at least, that would be the ideal natural evolution of the HAF. Of course the competingnaturalimpulse of the newbie is to come here and, without searching at all, ask how to change the oil and filter, so maybe this is all justBS.

RTexasF
10-27-2007, 12:14 PM
ORIGINAL: accords own

it would be cool if the "car of the month" thread was kept up with. a bunch of people were nominated for september, and then the voting never happened.


I feel that the entire section is a waste of time and bandwidth. It has never really worked as was hoped and it's time to scrap it completely. That space could be used for something else of more interest..........which members could suggest.

RTexasF
10-27-2007, 12:18 PM
The HAF Help & Suggestion Center was originally meantfor suggestions to improve the site. It has now turned into a "my car won't start" area. Those problems should have been posted elsewhere. That section could be deleted or cleared completely and started over going back to its original intent. If someone posts something there that has nothing to do with improving the site, move it to the appropriate area.

nafango2
10-27-2007, 01:25 PM
scrap the car of the month and suggestion center.

upgrade the for sale/wanted areas to a more craiglist type thing (or ebay type thing).

not that complex, just make a better way of monitoring whats for sale and what people want.

have people input their car year + model into their profile when they sign up, then have that auto-entered into their sig or the space below their username.

ckebottle
10-27-2007, 02:06 PM
ORIGINAL: Tony1M

If it would not gum up the works, I think it would be advantageousif everyone used more photos when either explaining a problem, or explaining a solution. Most times a good photo is indeed worth a thousand words, even though it's a bit of a PITA to take, edit, and post them.



I agree too! For example the DIY section is a great source of information, but for people like me, pics would be greatly appreciated. It says do this do that unscrew this, but for those that are noob like me we are trying to figure out what is what in order to follow along.

There are also a lot of questions that come up that are very similar. It would be nice if threads were stickied more often for common questions or tech issues. This would be useful to help people find the solution to their problem more efficiently. Eg the 6th gen clock issue. Then again like tony pointed out, if info was too easily accessible why would people post their questions. Most common questions can be found through a search, but if everybody searched there would be a lot less new posts and less activity and just a higher amount of views.

Anyways, pics would be great when people fix stuff or have an issue to help everybody figure out what's going on. Pics pics pics! :D

19Accord97
10-27-2007, 02:40 PM
How about some sort of incentive for DIY's?
Like you'll get another star or something.

In my opinion, the DIY is hard to find things, so inside that category I think it needs to be divided up again by year and what part of the car such as engine, or exterior.

deserthonda
10-27-2007, 06:39 PM
ORIGINAL: ckebottle




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Anyways, pics would be great when people fix stuff or have an issue to help everybody figure out what's going on. Pics pics pics! :D




Yes i agree that pics in the DIY along with the written part would be a great asset to the members and a lot easier to understand ...
.. But I for one ,sorry to say this,, am NEVER going to be able to take and include pictures on the DIYs that i write
.. All the DIY the i have written or write up, are from doing the job recently or from past memory .. while doing a job in a customer car I will never stop to take pictures ,, A hobbist can do that , take their time, take a break , take pictures etc etc ,, but not when i have to make a living and get the customer car out ASAP so i can work on another car ..So i can make a living and pay my bills ..

So if someone has pictures on some of the DIY that have been written up let us know and i am sure there is a way that we can input them to the already written DIYs ...personally i do not know how to do it , but i am sure that the Administrators do ..





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Chiovnidca
10-27-2007, 06:50 PM
A "veiw your posts" button could be useful.

accords own
10-27-2007, 10:36 PM
yeah, i guess this forum is a pretty tightly knit group. we already know most of each other's cars and it probably is a better idea to just scrap the car of the month thread and use it for something else or just to have more space in general.

19Accord97
10-28-2007, 12:04 AM
What about on other sites, where they have a picture of one of the members Accords only on the homepage and it changes every time you load the page. I think that would be cool and make you proud!

kleptodathief
10-28-2007, 04:17 AM
how bout separating the gens of accords? cuz im mainly interested in my gen...the 6th gens ... sexiest and best looking accords![8D];)

MacLeod
10-28-2007, 11:41 AM
ORIGINAL: kleptodathief

how bout separating the gens of accords? cuz im mainly interested in my gen...the 6th gens ... sexiest and best looking accords![8D];)


I thought about this too as Im only interested in my 7th gen but then I browsed around on some other Accord forums that do seperate by gens and you miss out on a lot of good information.

For example, tips on how to install a turbo can be useful to any generation as could tire buying tips.

I think its best to leave the categories covering all generations.

Tony1M
10-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Something that I think might be fun would be to have some place to post photos of ourselves working on our cars ........ you know, a photo of the membertaken by a spouse, or friend, after the member has gotten inabout an hour's work trying to remove a crank pulley bolt, or when that lower ball joint is just not being cooperative enough.

Of course video with audio would likely not pass theAge Rating guidelines, at least without bleeps, so photos would be best. (Come to think of it, sometimes those bleeps are the best part of video clips. They leave it up to the fertile imagination of the listener to "fill in" the bleeps.)

We could even have a "caption" contest, to determine which words best match the particularemotion on the member's face at the time the photo was taken.

I, for one,know that I'm on my best behavior when I've spent a few hours underneath our car scraping my knuckles and getting my face full of whatever decides to fall on it. I'm sure everyone else is on their best behavior,too.

19Accord97
10-28-2007, 02:22 PM
ORIGINAL: Tony1M

I, for one,know that I'm on my best behavior when I've spent a few hours underneath our car scraping my knuckles and getting my face full of whatever decides to fall on it. I'm sure everyone else is on their best behavior,too.


I have never said a cuss word, or a derogative word on, in, underneath, or within 100 feet of my Accord. But I too think its the same for everybody:D;)

smaglik
10-28-2007, 05:11 PM
best suggestion yet:

Add a 'jump to first unread post' button to the threads, so when I return, I dont have to scroll through the whole thing every time.

ckebottle
10-28-2007, 05:32 PM
ORIGINAL: smaglik

best suggestion yet:

Add a 'jump to first unread post' button to the threads, so when I return, I dont have to scroll through the whole thing every time.


good one! i second the motion.

MacLeod
10-28-2007, 07:26 PM
Or how about if there was some way that when youre in the "new posts" page and you click on a thread, instead of opening up the new thread in the current window, it opens it up in a new tab or window. That way when youre done with that thread, you close that tab and youre right back to where you left off on the "new posts" page.

JimBlake
10-29-2007, 09:15 AM
You can do that already. The right-click menu includes things like "open in new tab" & "open in new window".

00AccordLX5spd
10-29-2007, 09:30 AM
I actually really like the format of the site as it is.
I agree photos in the DIY section is a must. I will try to take pics next time I work on anything on my car and see what appropriate DIY section they should go in. Then I'll PM a mod (proabably sir_nasty or wheelbroker) and see if they can post my pic(s) in the appropriate DIY section if I email it to them (as long as they approve the pic is useful).
I agree second what chio said above.I would like to see a "see my threads" button. I know there is a way to see your last 100 posts if you click on your profile, but I would like for that to be narrowed down toauthored threads too. I know you can use the "search"function and type in "by author" but sometimes that doesn't work well. Sometimes I can't seem to find a thread that I started myself!

Fenix
10-29-2007, 10:34 AM
How about a Fenix is great thread? i think everyone would enjoy that [8D]


Fenix .. you are greeeeeeeeat ,, [sm=bounceybounce.gif]

will it do ?? ;)

WheelBrokerAng
10-29-2007, 12:43 PM
ORIGINAL: MacLeod

ORIGINAL: kleptodathief

how bout separating the gens of accords? cuz im mainly interested in my gen...the 6th gens ... sexiest and best looking accords![8D];)


I thought about this too as Im only interested in my 7th gen but then I browsed around on some other Accord forums that do seperate by gens and you miss out on a lot of good information.

For example, tips on how to install a turbo can be useful to any generation as could tire buying tips.

I think its best to leave the categories covering all generations.


|We more or less feel the same way about that...you pick up so much more information the way we have it already...
WheelBrokerAng [sm=americanasmiley.gif]

WheelBrokerAng
10-29-2007, 12:46 PM
ORIGINAL: Tony1M

Something that I think might be fun would be to have some place to post photos of ourselves working on our cars ........ you know, a photo of the membertaken by a spouse, or friend, after the member has gotten inabout an hour's work trying to remove a crank pulley bolt, or when that lower ball joint is just not being cooperative enough.

Of course video with audio would likely not pass theAge Rating guidelines, at least without bleeps, so photos would be best. (Come to think of it, sometimes those bleeps are the best part of video clips. They leave it up to the fertile imagination of the listener to "fill in" the bleeps.)

We could even have a "caption" contest, to determine which words best match the particularemotion on the member's face at the time the photo was taken.

I, for one,know that I'm on my best behavior when I've spent a few hours underneath our car scraping my knuckles and getting my face full of whatever decides to fall on it. I'm sure everyone else is on their best behavior,too.


**Yo Tony-1M..you can do that by opening up your Gallery account and posting your pictures or what have you in there..Remember to keep them clean in there ;)

WheelBrokerAng [sm=americanasmiley.gif]

JimBlake
10-29-2007, 04:58 PM
I'm gonna set myself up for some flaming here.

Lately I think we've gone overboard about insisting the car's info be in the signature. [flame suit - where did I put that flame suit???]

I'm thinking about several threads lately where theperson clearly said what car he/she has, only it wasn't inthe signature. We scolded them & hollered &maybe scared them away forever.

Information about the car has to be there somewhere, but what's wrong with it being in the body of the post? If I want to ask a question about my daughter's friend's cousin's Accord, that car isn't going to be in MY signature.

falkore24
10-29-2007, 05:14 PM
nice edit DH!!!!! Jim ..... no comment.

RTexasF
10-29-2007, 05:18 PM
ORIGINAL: JimBlake

I'm gonna set myself up for some flaming here.

Lately I think we've gone overboard about insisting the car's info be in the signature. [flame suit - where did I put that flame suit???]

I'm thinking about several threads lately where theperson clearly said what car he/she has, only it wasn't inthe signature. We scolded them & hollered &maybe scared them away forever.

Information about the car has to be there somewhere, but what's wrong with it being in the body of the post? If I want to ask a question about my daughter's friend's cousin's Accord, that car isn't going to be in MY signature.



Good point and I concur.

deserthonda
10-29-2007, 05:47 PM
ORIGINAL: JimBlake

I'm gonna set myself up for some flaming here.

Lately I think we've gone overboard about insisting the car's info be in the signature. [flame suit - where did I put that flame suit???]

I'm thinking about several threads lately where theperson clearly said what car he/she has, only it wasn't inthe signature. We scolded them & hollered &maybe scared them away forever.

Information about the car has to be there somewhere, but what's wrong with it being in the body of the post? If I want to ask a question about my daughter's friend's cousin's Accord, that car isn't going to be in MY signature.



Jim ,,,first off no flaming , so no need to be by a water bucket :)
I am probable the biggest one that requests that members who seek help input the yr, model etc etc.. the reason being it only takes 10 extra seconds if that to input it in the signature and the info would be there all the time ( on every single post ) it would give them a faster reply ,, it gets real frustarting when having to ask members over and over to input the proper information, (also, in my opinion it wastes space ) and trust me i have done it dozen and dozen and dozens of time ( what's the yr and model ) ??? Heck it got so bad that i had to input it in my signature ( no yr no model no help ) it makes me feel to totally bypass that post ,, But that would defeat HAF and my own purpose , I am here when time allows me to help as many people as i can, to the best of my abilities ,,

Now i will agree with you that if it is not your personal car , than there is no need to input the info on the sig as long as it is in the post when asking for help .
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JimBlake
10-29-2007, 08:40 PM
ORIGINAL: falkore24

nice edit DH!!!!! Jim ..... no comment.

I musta missed something. I hope it was funny.

I figured I'd get some hassle from you guys, that's why I said it. I've got a thick skin especially when the flaming has some humor to it.

I get a little annoyed too when the car's info is missing.I was thinkingmore aboutscaring off thenewcomers.

smaglik
10-29-2007, 08:45 PM
does your thick skin repel tea?

Actually, I agree with you. I think its a good idea to tell new members to put that info in their sig, but to go out of the way to scold them when they've made an attempt is not necessary.

JimBlake
10-29-2007, 10:20 PM
ORIGINAL: smaglik

does your thick skin repel tea?

I wasn't even sleeping with my mouth open. Besides I often grind my teeth suddenly in my sleep...

smaglik
10-29-2007, 10:22 PM
that is a solid defense mechanism. didnt andy dufresne have a similar comment in shawshank?

Tony1M
10-30-2007, 11:24 AM
I am one of more than 250,000 members of the Audio Visual Science (AVS) Forum.

That site has a veryuseful auto-searchfeature that I thought might be of interest to the HAF powers-that-be.

When you hit the "New thread" buttonat the top of themain page ofany of the site'smanyforums, a form-page pops up that is typical of most other sites. But, unlike other sites,when you have finished filling in the "thread title" line and then click into the much-larger"body" part of the page, before you can type a single word in the body, a very fastsearch takes placeand alist of similar thread-title-links pops up, along with two accompanying explanatorymessages. First, on top of the list of threads, there is theheading -"Here are the similar threads we found", and second, below the list,"Please take a look at those threads before you start a new one."

On several occasions I have intended to start a new thread, but, after reading the list of threads that popped up, I found the information I needed and I didn't have to submitthe new thread. I'm sure a great many others have had a similar experience, and, as a result,a great number of unnecessary new threadshave beenavoided.

deserthonda
10-30-2007, 12:21 PM
ORIGINAL: Tony1M

I am one of more than 250,000 members of the Audio Visual Science (AVS) Forum.

That site has a veryuseful auto-searchfeature that I thought might be of interest to the HAF powers-that-be.

When you hit the "New thread" buttonat the top of themain page ofany of the site'smanyforums, a form-page pops up that is typical of most other sites. But, unlike other sites,when you have finished filling in the "thread title" line and then click into the much-larger"body" part of the page, before you can type a single word in the body, a very fastsearch takes placeand alist of similar thread-title-links pops up, along with two accompanying explanatorymessages. First, on top of the list of threads, there is theheading -"Here are the similar threads we found", and second, below the list,"Please take a look at those threads before you start a new one."

On several occasions I have intended to start a new thread, but, after reading the list of threads that popped up, I found the information I needed and I didn't have to submitthe new thread. I'm sure a great many others have had a similar experience, and, as a result,a great number of unnecessary new threadshave beenavoided.


I like it......automatic search button when starting a new thread ,,
Some of the other inputs that i feel would help beside tony's suggestion

A section where members can download DIY pictures , then us mods , we can add them to the appropiate diy write up ,,Only pictures of actual work would be accepted.

On the general tech help area, a breakdown of generation , it will make it faster for a member to find an answer to their question..
If someone owns a 98 .. he ( she ) is not going to care to look at something that does not apply to their car .. yes, i agree you will miss a lot of other general info, but i feel that members, mostly care only on fixing their particular cars .

word wrap ???. on all posts
Lot of times i open a post and it takes up the whole screen and then some, ( and i have a big screen ) i have to use the slide bar al the way to the end to attempt to read the post ,, Anyone else have that issue ??

HAf help and suggestion center ..
remove the help part, this should be just a suggestion section .
,members see the HAF help and post problems that they have with their cars, hardly anyone goes there to reply them ,or it will take a very long time for them to get a reply
members might feel ignored and leave this forum or if a new member not return. .. All help question should go to the gen tech area or related sections..

Tony1M
10-30-2007, 01:13 PM
On the "break-down according to generation" suggestion - I think this changemight potentiallyleadto some major repetitionof writing, troubleshooting guides, photos, etc. wheremechanical, electrical, body, "you name it"areasof allgenerations "overlap".

This can be avoided to a certain extent, butit will have to be done by individuals posting links to where something has already been explained in a different generation. Then the viewer has to go into the other gen's area anyway.

I don't have any firm conviction on this.As I said, I just see thepotential for a lot of unnecessary duplication.In fact, ifI can find everything I need to know within our car's "magicgeneration" forum, that's just fine with me.

If the change is adopted, however, I think the search function should not likewisebe restricted tothat single generation's forum - at least on the first attempt. If it is, then the likelihood of unnecessary duplication of applicable threadsfrom other forumsis multiplied directlyby the number of new forums.

JimBlake
10-30-2007, 01:23 PM
ORIGINAL: deserthonda

On the general tech help area, a breakdown of generation , it will make it faster for a member to find an answer to their question..
If someone owns a 98 .. he ( she ) is not going to care to look at something that does not apply to their car .. yes, i agree you will miss a lot of other general info, but i feel that members, mostly care only on fixing their particular cars .


There's also a tremendous amount of information that is not limited to a single generation. And some that changes year-to-year in the same generation. Sounds way complicated to me.

Imagine all the discussion about distributors & ignitors & coils. That applies to several generations.

OBD-1 and OBD-2 both apply to different years of the 5th-gen. So when you're talking about trouble codes, it's not enough to simply say "5th-gen".


ORIGINAL: deserthonda

word wrap ???. on all posts
Lot of times i open a post and it takes up the whole screen and then some, ( and i have a big screen ) i have to use the slide bar al the way to the end to attempt to read the post ,, Anyone else have that issue ??


That seems to be driven by a large picture somewhere in the thread. A wide picture in post #1 only makes post #1 wide. But a wide picture in post #6 makes ALL wide except #1.

Fenix
10-30-2007, 03:27 PM
Aww deserthonda you do care :)

Actually i think this place is running fine the way it is. Ive only been here for a little over a year...i think :? but i like the way everything is set up

live2rice
10-30-2007, 09:22 PM
how about a trader rating for people that sell parts on here. that way people know that the person they are buying from can be trusted

this might be worthless seeing it seems not alot of stuff moves in our for sale forum

smaglik
10-30-2007, 09:48 PM
i like the auto search function upon creatin a new topic.

and i agree on the i-trader

Velocifero
10-31-2007, 10:13 AM
i like how on Vbulletin forums, the "New Posts" button is like bam right in the middle on top. and pulls up recent and unread posts. i know theres a feature here at the bottom of the page, just less convenient and i dont know how it compares to Vbulletins version. i use this feature on other forums all the time. on here, not so much, i usually just briefly look at a few forums.

00AccordLX5spd
10-31-2007, 10:34 AM
ORIGINAL: JimBlake

I've got a thick skin



Sodo I. You have to have thick skin to survive in the insurance claims business. I almost feel it isout of theordinary tonot have someone ticked off or yelling at meat least once aday. I haven't had any death threats or threats of bodily harmyet, but I'm sure I will get one or two soon! A lot of the time people try to threaten with "I'm gonna get a lawyer!" To which I wish I could respond in a sarcastic voice: "Oooohhhhh! I am sooooo scared!" Actually I like it when people get lawyers. Lawyers are normally easier to deal with and are somewhat reasonable (the good ones who know what they are doing.) So, toanyone out there dealing with an insurance adjuster and everything is not going as planned, don't threaten them by telling them you'll get a lawyer. It only makes us laugh when we get off the phone with you.

Back to the point. I think breaking up the generations may be helpful, but I fear it would do more harm than good.
I also agree if you own the car, put the info in your sig. if you don't own the car and are askingsomething for a friend or relative, then inputting all the info in the original post should be sufficient.

klrspz
11-01-2007, 02:10 PM
I come from a technical world, so forgive my criticism and over-attention to details:
I agree with most of everyone else's comments as well, so I'll leave the repetition down to a minimum on those.

- Wiki: A wiki that people can update and contribute to (can be permissioned, and/or monitored). The HowTo section is great, but I feel it lacks user input (modern/updated content, etc), as well as categorization (much like the "Your Ride" has). If at minimum, the HowTo's can be split amongst the sections as sub-forums

- Overall forum: The forum here seems really outdated; most of the features you get on today's forums are missing, or incorrectly implemented. Search being the biggest! It treats each post as a complete thread (the posted by and last posted by are always the same person, and time, although 10 ppl could have replied to it).

- RSS: I love RSS, and would love to get a feed that just tells me which are new posts.. At this point, I don't care if it's (sub)forum specific, but it wouldn't hurt if it had support for that as well.

- AutoSearch: I like the idea of the autosearch... Basically changing the post to a 2 step process. 1) Fill out title and click submit... searches for you and display results. 2) If you didn't find what you wanted, you can continue with the body. Having said this, there should be a thresh-hold of when to stop that.. Say at like 20-30 posts, it shouldn't require this.. As people get used to the forums, they generally will start to search on their own, mostly because they've been forced, as well as we generally tell people to :)

- Top Menu: Dumb it down.. to many links, and some go to the same page (Honda Accord Recalls & TSBs for example). Also, a categorization is a good start too.. Put stuff that's highly un-used in a dropdown menu or something (Calendar, Member list, etc).

- Car Profile: I think one of the larger successes of CarDomain is the ability to put a profile up for you and your car. Maybe something that ties the user to the forums to identify who they are. It wouldn't be hard to implement, and would avoid the whole "Put your Yr, Make, Model in your sig" posts. Make this mandatory on signup, and once finalized/release, force it on anyone who hasn't done so. It'd also be a great place to tie in the gallery, since most of the galleries here are directly related to mods and what not done to a specific person's car

- Chat: One thing I've found useful since being on this forum is talking one on one with another member (thank you btw guys, you've been great help). I for one am not intimidated by asking people for help, and feel ok with seeking out individuals this way. Some people don't like to be bothered on their personal IM's either... so this helps there as well. Others however, would probably feel more accepted if there was a congregation of people talking together. This would probably also cut down on the stupid questions already asked like "why are air intakes good", "cai vs sri", etc. Bots can be useful as well as you can merely say something like "!search <person's question>" and have it return 1-5 result links, and prove to the end-user the power of searching. Of the 7 forums I run (gaming and development driven) the Chat has been the most successful mod to any of them. Without saying, this also helps provide immediate results for end-users seeking help, which I believe the sole purpose of the internet.

- People: Actually, I just wanted to point out that the people on this forum are extremely helpful, and knowledgeable. A recognition page would also be nice; maybe based on points. There's a site that techies use called ExpertsExchange (can be misread as expert sex change :)) that completely relies on a point system. Now I'm not suggesting that, but if a thread is long running, it's sometimes crucial/important/desired to quickly identify which reply was the most accurate and positively influential. I hate reading threads where someone answered justly about 12 posts in, but the thread is like 6 pages long. You generally start from the beginning of the thread, or the end to jump to conclusions. This would quickly identify a post that says "Hey, this really helped me out." Of course, this comes to play with how people need to be responsible and actually apply points/votes for these things. And it could also turn into another administrative consideration when mods peruse forums (in one of our forums the mods will post something like "Please identify a user that helped you in your problem" [this also leads to the next point]).

- Enforcing useful thread titles: I hate, repeat HATE, when people have thread titles like "How do i...", "What should i do??", "is this right...", etc. They are by far the most useless titles known to man. A descriptive title can really help in searches as well. On top of that, a good standard of supplying modifier labels to threads would help as well. For example, if I need help, i put "[Request]" or "[Help]" (actual descriptors can be defined later) followed by the title ("[Help] Can't identify piece on CAI"). Once satisfied, the descriptor cahgnes to "[Solved]".

This is all I have now, I'll add more as I think of them.


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Oh, and I'm completely against separating by generation... As ppl have said, there is some useful generic information scattered through those if done that way.. It might be up to a mod to identify these and move as needed, but that's just more work.

ckebottle
11-01-2007, 07:13 PM
Wow...very nice post. What do you do in the technical world?

j_man_honda
11-01-2007, 08:38 PM
ORIGINAL: klrspz

I come from a technical world, so forgive my criticism and over-attention to details:
I agree with most of everyone else's comments as well, so I'll leave the repetition down to a minimum on those.

- Wiki: A wiki that people can update and contribute to (can be permissioned, and/or monitored). The HowTo section is great, but I feel it lacks user input (modern/updated content, etc), as well as categorization (much like the "Your Ride" has). If at minimum, the HowTo's can be split amongst the sections as sub-forums

- Overall forum: The forum here seems really outdated; most of the features you get on today's forums are missing, or incorrectly implemented. Search being the biggest! It treats each post as a complete thread (the posted by and last posted by are always the same person, and time, although 10 ppl could have replied to it).

- RSS: I love RSS, and would love to get a feed that just tells me which are new posts.. At this point, I don't care if it's (sub)forum specific, but it wouldn't hurt if it had support for that as well.

- AutoSearch: I like the idea of the autosearch... Basically changing the post to a 2 step process. 1) Fill out title and click submit... searches for you and display results. 2) If you didn't find what you wanted, you can continue with the body. Having said this, there should be a thresh-hold of when to stop that.. Say at like 20-30 posts, it shouldn't require this.. As people get used to the forums, they generally will start to search on their own, mostly because they've been forced, as well as we generally tell people to :)

- Top Menu: Dumb it down.. to many links, and some go to the same page (Honda Accord Recalls & TSBs for example). Also, a categorization is a good start too.. Put stuff that's highly un-used in a dropdown menu or something (Calendar, Member list, etc).

- Car Profile: I think one of the larger successes of CarDomain is the ability to put a profile up for you and your car. Maybe something that ties the user to the forums to identify who they are. It wouldn't be hard to implement, and would avoid the whole "Put your Yr, Make, Model in your sig" posts. Make this mandatory on signup, and once finalized/release, force it on anyone who hasn't done so. It'd also be a great place to tie in the gallery, since most of the galleries here are directly related to mods and what not done to a specific person's car

- Chat: One thing I've found useful since being on this forum is talking one on one with another member (thank you btw guys, you've been great help). I for one am not intimidated by asking people for help, and feel ok with seeking out individuals this way. Some people don't like to be bothered on their personal IM's either... so this helps there as well. Others however, would probably feel more accepted if there was a congregation of people talking together. This would probably also cut down on the stupid questions already asked like "why are air intakes good", "cai vs sri", etc. Bots can be useful as well as you can merely say something like "!search <person's question>" and have it return 1-5 result links, and prove to the end-user the power of searching. Of the 7 forums I run (gaming and development driven) the Chat has been the most successful mod to any of them. Without saying, this also helps provide immediate results for end-users seeking help, which I believe the sole purpose of the internet.

- People: Actually, I just wanted to point out that the people on this forum are extremely helpful, and knowledgeable. A recognition page would also be nice; maybe based on points. There's a site that techies use called ExpertsExchange (can be misread as expert sex change :)) that completely relies on a point system. Now I'm not suggesting that, but if a thread is long running, it's sometimes crucial/important/desired to quickly identify which reply was the most accurate and positively influential. I hate reading threads where someone answered justly about 12 posts in, but the thread is like 6 pages long. You generally start from the beginning of the thread, or the end to jump to conclusions. This would quickly identify a post that says "Hey, this really helped me out." Of course, this comes to play with how people need to be responsible and actually apply points/votes for these things. And it could also turn into another administrative consideration when mods peruse forums (in one of our forums the mods will post something like "Please identify a user that helped you in your problem" [this also leads to the next point]).

- Enforcing useful thread titles: I hate, repeat HATE, when people have thread titles like "How do i...", "What should i do??", "is this right...", etc. They are by far the most useless titles known to man. A descriptive title can really help in searches as well. On top of that, a good standard of supplying modifier labels to threads would help as well. For example, if I need help, i put "[Request]" or "[Help]" (actual descriptors can be defined later) followed by the title ("[Help] Can't identify piece on CAI"). Once satisfied, the descriptor cahgnes to "[Solved]".

This is all I have now, I'll add more as I think of them.


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Oh, and I'm completely against separating by generation... As ppl have said, there is some useful generic information scattered through those if done that way.. It might be up to a mod to identify these and move as needed, but that's just more work.


This is exactly what I would have said if I wasn't too lazy to type all that...Good post, I agree 100%

klrspz
11-01-2007, 11:07 PM
Right now I am a Senior Enterprise Software Developer...

I'm a computer geek at heart :)

Calm_B4_Chaos
11-01-2007, 11:51 PM
"- Car Profile: I think one of the larger successes of CarDomain is the ability to put a profile up for you and your car. Maybe something that ties the user to the forums to identify who they are. It wouldn't be hard to implement, and would avoid the whole "Put your Yr, Make, Model in your sig" posts. Make this mandatory on signup, and once finalized/release, force it on anyone who hasn't done so. It'd also be a great place to tie in the gallery, since most of the galleries here are directly related to mods and what not done to a specific person's car "

I like that! Also if the Gallerys were like divided up by year

ckebottle
11-02-2007, 02:24 AM
ORIGINAL: klrspz

Right now I am a Senior Enterprise Software Developer...

I'm a computer geek at heart :)



Awesome! Love your suggestions!

accords own
11-02-2007, 12:25 PM
ORIGINAL: klrspz

- People: Actually, I just wanted to point out that the people on this forum are extremely helpful, and knowledgeable.


thanks man! :Dlol

klrspz
11-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Well, it's true :)

The knowledge here is plentiful.

thunder_x
11-06-2007, 03:55 PM
what we really need is a transmission section and a section for swaps. ive seen many forums where they have both of these and they are very helpful.
where am i supposed to post my flywheel questions?!

bssmagik83
11-09-2007, 12:13 PM
How come I cant use the cut or paste function when I'mposting a reply??/ Can we discuss this?

klrspz
11-09-2007, 01:45 PM
That's probably an IE only thing, so you might want to make sure you are using that instead of FireFox or another alternative browser.

If you ARE using IE, I don't know.. I run Linux so I don't have IE to test with.

TCHondatoy
11-12-2007, 02:31 PM
Well, I am new to the forum world, i like the website so far. As soon as I think of something to improve I will post! Thanks

accord4sroy
11-12-2007, 03:52 PM
You did your research and found the place that k wrote. I couldn't find it lol. Although, I only looked at a few of the posts.

Suggestion for forum could be possibly having members recommend their dealers or follow the format similar to hondabeat.com in some ways.

Does anyone have any idea what happened to the 500,000 mile man with the moon and chronicles?

falkore24
11-12-2007, 04:22 PM
I have a great idea!!!!! Let's have a flashing banner that says "Spammer" under the people's names that post spam ..... kinda like the "Contributor" tags except flashing to catch more attention ....... while we're at it, how about a "Con Artist" tag for Longears and accordsangel?!?

RTexasF
11-14-2007, 03:17 PM
Where is this thread going from here? Great idea but it's slowly fading to page 2 and beyond. Will any of the suggestions be taken to heart?

klrspz
11-14-2007, 03:25 PM
I was actually just wondering the same thing...

ckebottle
11-14-2007, 05:05 PM
Me too! May we have an update if any of the suggestions will be implemented?

deserthonda
11-15-2007, 01:41 PM
ORIGINAL: RTexasF

Where is this thread going from here? Great idea but it's slowly fading to page 2 and beyond. Will any of the suggestions be taken to heart?


I am going to wait till the end of NOV to make sure that most members see this and input their opinion,, after that i will lock the thread and talk to the administartor ( Wheelbroker ) ask him to review the member's opinions ,,
the decision to make any changes will be solely theirs, and like i said before , all opinions will be looked at and the ones that they feel might be beneficial to the forum and its member's might be used ..\

I like some opinions but i am not at liberty , nor do i know how to apply the changes .Administators would have to do so ..

But i want to thank all the members who have shared their opinions in the hope to improve our forum. :)

klrspz
11-15-2007, 02:48 PM
In the event you need some development help, I might be available, depends on the work load though of course :|

00AccordLX5spd
11-15-2007, 03:54 PM
Is anyone interested in starting an "Insurance Questions" section? In case anyone has a question about a claim or something about insurance in general. I would be glad to help out whenever I can. I know this is not an insurance forum, but I feel like more people may ask questions or see a previous answer to a questionif they saw other's posts.

falkore24
11-15-2007, 03:56 PM
put it next to "Storytime with Falkore"!!!

klrspz
11-15-2007, 04:07 PM
Not a bad idea about the insurance deal...

I know it's a tricky business, and having an insider always helps.

00AccordLX5spd
11-15-2007, 04:09 PM
ORIGINAL: falkore24

put it next to "Storytime with Falkore"!!!


I'm actually talking about a whole section of the forum where we could have a bunch of separate threads within.

JimBlake
11-15-2007, 04:44 PM
In your job do you get much exposure to all the different insurance rules of all the different states? I wonder if we would need an insurance 'expert' for each state in order to do that?

00AccordLX5spd
11-15-2007, 04:59 PM
Well, I am not an all knowing expert by any means. Every state has their own laws. I just mean for general questions. More specific questions could be asked, and I could attempt looking up answers with my insurance resources unavailable to others.

falkore24
11-16-2007, 08:35 AM
I have a good idea for an improvement!!! When the last post is mine and I hit "Posts since last visit" ..... what is the point of the thread comming up in bold? If the last post is from me, then I've already read it! Can we fix this?

RTexasF
11-16-2007, 08:48 AM
ORIGINAL: deserthonda

ORIGINAL: RTexasF

Where is this thread going from here? Great idea but it's slowly fading to page 2 and beyond. Will any of the suggestions be taken to heart?


I am going to wait till the end of NOV to make sure that most members see this and input their opinion,, after that i will lock the thread and talk to the administartor ( Wheelbroker ) ask him to review the member's opinions ,,
the decision to make any changes will be solely theirs, and like i said before , all opinions will be looked at and the ones that they feel might be beneficial to the forum and its member's might be used ..\

I like some opinions but i am not at liberty , nor do i know how to apply the changes .Administators would have to do so ..

But i want to thank all the members who have shared their opinions in the hope to improve our forum. :)



Good, thanks DH. I just wanted to make sure it didn't fade into nothingness.

deserthonda
11-30-2007, 11:08 PM
Ok people ,,,,, last weekend to make any sugggestions ,,,then i will lock this up ,,as of Sunday Dec 2nd ..

I just noticed 1 change that has already been added which i really like a lot ,, the related thread at the bottom of the page , which may already contain replies to members questions with the same issues ..

Cinci90
03-22-2009, 08:31 PM
I have a suggestion....

We need to have a HAF meet. Honestly.

Get us out there and let the rest of the tuner know what the Accords can do.

And maybe someday we'll get a feature in a mag... (Doubtful, I know, what with all the Civics S200s and Integras, but who knows?


But a meet for HAF and the other Accord Forums would be amazing.

status
03-22-2009, 08:40 PM
from the depths of hell she arises!

live2rice
03-22-2009, 08:44 PM
^true that.

And there are plenty of Accord meets, just not held by this forum as no one would show up! lol.

status
04-14-2009, 12:29 AM
i say close haf.

cjdm98
04-14-2009, 12:32 AM
i say close haf.

:eek::confused::eek:

Tisk tisk Alec.

status
04-14-2009, 12:43 AM
you dont know me!

WheelBrokerAng
04-14-2009, 07:16 AM
i say close haf.

Better Knock It Off or I'll Turn Your Car Into This ...

4dooraccordex
10-06-2009, 11:10 PM
kills, tell people about little races you have been in, in detail.

sightings, see if anyone in your town is on here by decribing the accord you saw.

and ride of the month needs some love.

searich07
10-11-2009, 01:59 PM
New Member, uploaded album photos, added Avatar & signature, up and running. I do hope a friend (DrumZ53), who is a member from New Jersey will become active in this Forum. Regards

Richard

WheelBrokerAng
10-22-2009, 01:16 AM
i say close haf.

A Bad Idea Of A Want To Be Moderator :confused:

19Accord97
10-22-2009, 02:03 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/11h4hnd.jpg

Velocifero
10-25-2009, 11:59 AM
Getting pictures to work in signatures would be nice, I'm surprised that isn't fixed yet. Maybe a "Member's Ride" section so people can post their mods, pics, and other information about their cars. Everyone will have their own thread. It would cut down on "look what's new" threads, when you can just update their own thread.

HondaAccordEX94
03-09-2010, 11:24 PM
Being a Moderator for another board, I understand why pictures wouldn't be wise to put in sigs. There's always going to be some member who puts a bunch of pictures in there or a small amount of large pictures and it's going to stretch everything.

Anyways, as for improvements... I haven't really seen anything, yet, that I think needs improved. I love this site. I'm new to the world of cars, being 17 and only having my first car for about 6 months. But I"m trying to learn everything I can as fast as I can, and there are SOOO many helpful people here, which is great. This is by far the best Honda forum I've been on. In fact, I stopped using the others a long time ago.