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Old 01-16-2007 | 11:22 PM
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You should be able to put a 92 engine into a 91 vehicle... You just couldnt put a 91 engine into a 92 vehicle. At least that is my understanding of the rules, if you read different, could you post where you read it? It would help so everyone can be on the same page.
 
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Old 01-18-2007 | 11:36 AM
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or you could post why its illegal, because any way you look at it emissions arent being maintained if you change to an older ecu on a newer engine, especially considering older h22's are being put in newer accords
 
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Old 01-18-2007 | 07:10 PM
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I'm going to call BS on this as well... I live in Montana and I've seen guys LITERALLY put a 454 into a VW bug, we don't have emissions standards/tests....
 
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Old 01-18-2007 | 07:35 PM
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If you dont have emissions, it wouldnt matter. The area in Oregon where Im from, we didnt have emissions either, so you could pretty much swap anything. But if you are in an area where you do have to get your car emissions tested, its going to be a different case. Im sure the law varies from state to state.

Also, just because something is illegal, doesnt mean that it isnt or cant bedone. How many people ALWAYS follow the speed limit?
 
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Old 01-18-2007 | 09:01 PM
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if you cant make it emissions legal based on the states regulations you really cant say its illegal to put an older engine in a newer car
 
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Old 01-19-2007 | 12:09 PM
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It's really not a issue of legality or not, the problem that I had, was that you will always end up with a check engine light on. Depending on the state in which you reside, that car will fail emmisions. for simply having a CEL showing. I swapped a jdm h22a into my 92 2dr ex accord and had nothing but problems. The install was done by DRT in Queens, NY any of you guys that head down to english town would know who they are. My personal expierence is that it is a lot of money and and an even bigger headache with h22 swap. Major problems with the vehicle were:

(1) Half axels - replacement every 3-6 months
(2) EGR valve ECU code - never figured out why.
(3) Overheating - ran extremely hot.
(4) H22a seems to weigh more than f22 or has a different center of gravity and created a negative camber condition in the front.


I still think that my f22 on a 65 shot , could hang with h22. Now the h22 w/65 shot well that ran a best of 14.3 @ 101.77. Just my 2 cents.

 
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Old 01-19-2007 | 10:10 PM
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Hey Montana joe you called bs on what I said right.
Well since your a mod you must know what you saying cause in Montana you guys swap tractor engines and put them in hondas and its all good.
Well let me tell you sometime if you use logic it would tell you that an older engine in a newer car is a no no for smog test. And yeah I know you guys swap that 454 into the vw so because they did that its ok. Wrong again Billy, in miami people smoke weed all the time and it dont make it legal they just dont get caught. So dont blabber about things that you dont know about cause its rude especially to a new member that just wanted to avoid any problems to any future engine swapper. Remeber just cause its done it dont make it legal. I got this info from temple of vtec before doing my civic b16 swap I had a 1999 and the engine was a 1995 no good for the now extinct south florida emmisions. If you want more info check with AQMD site.
Dont make people do costly mistakes with comments your arent sure about!
To me it sounds like you was just hating on the new kid on the forum!!!
 
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Old 01-19-2007 | 10:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: zexkid37
(1) Half axels - replacement every 3-6 months
(2) EGR valve ECU code - never figured out why.
(3) Overheating - ran extremely hot.
(4) H22a seems to weigh more than f22 or has a different center of gravity and created a negative camber condition in the front.

I still think that my f22 on a 65 shot , could hang with h22. Now the h22 w/65 shot well that ran a best of 14.3 @ 101.77. Just my 2 cents.
Dang. Did you ever figure out why it was overheating? Was the ECU swapped from the H22 also? I dont know why the half axles would be breaking so often either, that is strange. Did you see if you could find some stronger ones on the aftermarket?

Just more reasons for me to build and turbo my F22 instead of swapping... The idea looks better every day...

Miami, dont get all upset about it. Its okay to disagree and havean opinion. Sir Nasty is a pretty knowledgable dude, but never did he proclaim to know it all. No need to get offended, my friend. No one hates you just because you are a new guy, I promise lol.
 
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Old 01-19-2007 | 10:28 PM
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Sorry if I offended you I was merely stating that not ALL states are illegal for that swap... Montana doesn't have smog or emissions testing at all and it's prefectly legal to what you like in Montana, I wasn't trying to be a ***** I just wanted to make sure that it was understood that the legality of this swap (or any swap for that matter) depends entirely on what your state laws are. Some states it's legal some states it's not.... So to say that it's illegal to do it in ANY state would be false information and I just wanted to clarify, sorry if my verbage was a little harsh.
 
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Old 01-19-2007 | 10:31 PM
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