Increasing Piston Stroke
#12
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
i have to say.... here we go again, and the size of the piston as well as its length is maximized to your block andybigger it will sieze up, and longer it will hit the top of the block and snap
#14
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
TL-s hahaha no way man... youll end up paying wayyyy more for everything... insurance, gas, custom parts.... keep your car and swap out the motor for a H22... youll have more than enough power with that.
#15
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
ORIGINAL: falkore24
http://www.paeco (dot) com/Stroker%20Kits.htm
They don-t list it, but I read on another forum that they make a kit that makes the F23 2803 cc's and cost $1600.
I don't think the car would necessarily need a tune, but it would to maximize the output.
http://www.paeco (dot) com/Stroker%20Kits.htm
They don-t list it, but I read on another forum that they make a kit that makes the F23 2803 cc's and cost $1600.
I don't think the car would necessarily need a tune, but it would to maximize the output.
With some work you MIGHT be able to make a K24 crank work and get it to 99mm stroke.
Anyway you look at it you are looking in the thousands of dollars range, and all this on a slushbox tranny is worthless.
#16
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
Tippman, ^??
To stroke the motor will require a crank with a longer throw, and either shorter con-rods or pistons with a shorter pin to crown distance (or both). The gains are very unlikely to be worth the trouble and expense, and the engine is quite likely to be less reliable (especially if revved hard).
Increasing engine capacity to 2.8L (as per that stroker kit) will make it a huge capacity for a straight four, and it's likely to vibrate excessively (even with balance shafts?). All I can see is pitfalls and problems with this.
If a substantial increase in bottom end and mid range power is wanted, and you feel the need to be a bit different, then I still think a mechanical supercharger would be a much better bet than stroking. A Turbocharger would be easier since there's so much turbo knowledge out there (not to mention hardware). A smallish turbo would probably give almost instantaneous bottom end grunt so feel similar to a supercharger, though probably fall off a bit at higher rpm.
To stroke the motor will require a crank with a longer throw, and either shorter con-rods or pistons with a shorter pin to crown distance (or both). The gains are very unlikely to be worth the trouble and expense, and the engine is quite likely to be less reliable (especially if revved hard).
Increasing engine capacity to 2.8L (as per that stroker kit) will make it a huge capacity for a straight four, and it's likely to vibrate excessively (even with balance shafts?). All I can see is pitfalls and problems with this.
If a substantial increase in bottom end and mid range power is wanted, and you feel the need to be a bit different, then I still think a mechanical supercharger would be a much better bet than stroking. A Turbocharger would be easier since there's so much turbo knowledge out there (not to mention hardware). A smallish turbo would probably give almost instantaneous bottom end grunt so feel similar to a supercharger, though probably fall off a bit at higher rpm.
#17
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
Instead of buying a stroker kit. You could spend 1/3 of what it would cost for one and send your crank off to Castillo and have the stroked increased to how you wantit.
Also, pretty sure Crower's stroker kit designed for the H22 with 50mm mains (the most popular) and not the one with 55mm mains (H22a4 and F23 size) so that wont work. The K24's utilize a timing chain instead of a belt so that requires more custom work..again...not worth it.
Also, pretty sure Crower's stroker kit designed for the H22 with 50mm mains (the most popular) and not the one with 55mm mains (H22a4 and F23 size) so that wont work. The K24's utilize a timing chain instead of a belt so that requires more custom work..again...not worth it.
#18
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
whoa whoa whoa looks like i havent checked this thread in a minute...well from reading everything and everyones opinion...i agree with alot except i will in no way buy the TL-s...lol..sticking to honda well at least US honda...and as to what blkcurrantkord said...who exactly is castillo??...and would it be worth sending it to him??....
JohnL what you said about the smallish turbo what do you mean by fall off a bit at higher rpm??...because a turbo is starting to sound more and more appetizing
and to falkore...im kinda digging what you said...making the f23 2803 cc's...i think im willing to go that route and just get a tune afterwards..
JohnL what you said about the smallish turbo what do you mean by fall off a bit at higher rpm??...because a turbo is starting to sound more and more appetizing
and to falkore...im kinda digging what you said...making the f23 2803 cc's...i think im willing to go that route and just get a tune afterwards..
#20
RE: Increasing Piston Stroke
yea thats why i said US honda...not honda in general..lol..believe me i thought about it b4 i typed it...acura is honda in japan...but in the US i mean ya kno what im saying..