quick question about v-tec
#21
RE: quick question about v-tec
oh one more thing then i promise to leave ya'll alone, since i'm building from the ground up, think i should go ahead and get a motor from a 96 or 97 vtec, ?? or just stick with my non vtec setup??
#23
RE: quick question about v-tec
I've neverdone a turbo before (I'm just telling you everything I can remember I have read about them), but I've heard it can be done for around $1,500. kevinaccord did his himself. I would say to ask him, but he has been MIA for a while now.
I think buying a duplicate motor and turbo is the smartest and most practical thing for you to do. Plus hearing it spooland scream, and hearingthat blowoff valve go psshhhht every time you shift would be fricken sweet. Every time I see a car with turbo I always roll down my windows and turn my radio all the way down cause I want to hear it.
If I were you I would do a ton of research on it before buying parts. I would probably start by buying one of those books or something that explains how to set up a turbo. Check out the turbo section here. Also there is a 5th gen specific website - I think it is called gen5alive.com maybe? I bet they have members with turbos and maybe some good info.
I would love to eventually do a turbo, but it would be so far in the future I'm not even thinking about it now - I mean probably like 20 years down the road.
I think buying a duplicate motor and turbo is the smartest and most practical thing for you to do. Plus hearing it spooland scream, and hearingthat blowoff valve go psshhhht every time you shift would be fricken sweet. Every time I see a car with turbo I always roll down my windows and turn my radio all the way down cause I want to hear it.
If I were you I would do a ton of research on it before buying parts. I would probably start by buying one of those books or something that explains how to set up a turbo. Check out the turbo section here. Also there is a 5th gen specific website - I think it is called gen5alive.com maybe? I bet they have members with turbos and maybe some good info.
I would love to eventually do a turbo, but it would be so far in the future I'm not even thinking about it now - I mean probably like 20 years down the road.
#24
RE: quick question about v-tec
gen5alive is an okay site, but it's not too active. Also, if you do go turbo your going to have to get some sort of engine management to tune the system, I don't know if that's included in Jon's $1500 figure, but it's not cheap, nor is dyno time and tuning.
#25
RE: quick question about v-tec
PS - KevinAccord's mother died recently so he hasn't been on in a long while, but he does have a wealth of knowledge for DIY turboing. Try viewing his profile and looking at his recent posts.
#26
RE: quick question about v-tec
in response to finch, i think your first post meant for me not to go with the vtec correct? also the budget i will looking for was for the rebuild of the engine, sorry if i wasn't clear, i know i can do the turbo for around 1500-1700 just wondering what all those pistons rods rings valve lifters etc might run to complete rebuild a 2.2 non vtec
#27
RE: quick question about v-tec
My suggestion would be to work towards turbo like this:
Begin researching turbos, in the meantime spend your money on other mods (suspension, exhaust, stereo). Then begin piecing together a turbo; I've read a lot of threads stating that it is cheaper this way. When you have all the turbo parts, then buy a motor to build and set it up in the garage on an engine stand. Put the turbo on your current engine (assuming it still runs ok), tweak it, and have some fun. While you are enjoying the turbo, begin rebuilding the engine in the garage; hopefully you'll finish building it before blowing the current engine.
I don't offer this advice based on turbo knowledge since I don't have any. What I'm getting at is to do the cheaper stuff that you can get rid of easily should you change your mind. If you put hundreds of dollars of turbo-friendly parts into rebuilding a motor and it doesn't get used (lost interest, wrecked car, etc...) it will be hard to sell since you are not a "reputable" engine builder. If you do it my way and get rid of the car before it's finished, then you can easily put the car back to stock and sell the aftermarket stuff.
If you can't wait, and really need more power now, then I suggest you re-think the H22. It may cost a little more, but you'll go from 130 HP to 200 HP within a week.
Just my $.02
Begin researching turbos, in the meantime spend your money on other mods (suspension, exhaust, stereo). Then begin piecing together a turbo; I've read a lot of threads stating that it is cheaper this way. When you have all the turbo parts, then buy a motor to build and set it up in the garage on an engine stand. Put the turbo on your current engine (assuming it still runs ok), tweak it, and have some fun. While you are enjoying the turbo, begin rebuilding the engine in the garage; hopefully you'll finish building it before blowing the current engine.
I don't offer this advice based on turbo knowledge since I don't have any. What I'm getting at is to do the cheaper stuff that you can get rid of easily should you change your mind. If you put hundreds of dollars of turbo-friendly parts into rebuilding a motor and it doesn't get used (lost interest, wrecked car, etc...) it will be hard to sell since you are not a "reputable" engine builder. If you do it my way and get rid of the car before it's finished, then you can easily put the car back to stock and sell the aftermarket stuff.
If you can't wait, and really need more power now, then I suggest you re-think the H22. It may cost a little more, but you'll go from 130 HP to 200 HP within a week.
Just my $.02
#28
RE: quick question about v-tec
that is also a good idea as well white, not sure how i want to go about this, maybe if it wasn't to pricy i could just go buy the engine and pay a shop to rebuild it???But on the other hand i kinda want to do the work myself for a sense of accomplishment you know..as of right now i have around $2,500 to throw around so i am sure i can do some good things with this car and that kind of money... i still think turbo is the way to go for me just trying to find the best way to go about it.
#29
RE: quick question about v-tec
I really couldn't tell you how much a rebuild would cost. I would try to search around for a performance oriented import shop to see if they could quote you a price. If it was me....I would probably buy an engine stand and that spare engine and try to DIY as much as I could.
#30
RE: quick question about v-tec
Well i think that if you want to be able to have a variety of tuning opportunities, go turbo on a non-Vtec engine...(mine is Vtec and running just fine, but tunning is harder). The F22 handles boost better that the H22. I don't know you budget but turboing will take around 2800... and that is getting everything u'll need... i got the dyno free (good connections) (dated the guy's sister for 2 months)... this does not include the engine swap... (which i recomend if your a daily driver and need your car) take your car to a routine check; check cylinder compression, and purity of the oil to see if the engine is ok...