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Old 07-12-2021, 11:51 PM
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Default 2008 Accord EVAP Large leak.

Hello, I have a 2008 Accord 4 cylinder that has the P0455 and P0456. I made a smoke machine to look for the EVAP leak. I replaced the gas cap a few months ago when I first got the code because I didn't have the smoke machine to check for the leak. I didn't get the OEM Honda gas cap though. Well today I hooked up the smoke machine and I found a couple places where I was getting a leak. One is the gas cap! There was smoke pouring out around the gas cap! I ordered the OEM Honda cap. The other place I was getting smoke is the little device next to the EVAP canister behind the left rear tire. I looked up the part and it is the Fuel Drain Box. There is a big hose and I little hose connected to it. Smoke was pouring out the big hose. When I opened the plastic box that the hose was connected to there was nothing inside the box. I looked up the part and in the exploded view the box looks like there is a cap inside where the hose connects, see pic #11. I wonder if there was something inside and it rotted away?



Is anyone familiar with the EVAP system on these Accords?


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Old 07-13-2021, 10:10 PM
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Those codes may just be related to the gas cap not sealing. After every fill-up, turn the gas cap at least 3 clicks. Even with the new OEM gas cap, get in the practice of turning the gas cap at least 3 clicks.

The large hose that connects to the drain box is the evap drain hose. Inside the box, an option is to install a fuel drain spring due to EVAP canister vent shut valve close malfunction and spider webs. See this attached service bulletin.

TSB A08-87
 

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Old 07-14-2021, 12:01 AM
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Thank you very much for the reply and the link. I ordered a new drain box. Should there be smoke coming out of that large drain hose when I ran the smoke test? I thought if there is smoke coming out then the system can't pressurize.
 
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:46 AM
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Since the canister vent shut valve is normally open, if you did a smoke test without using a scan tool to command the vent shut valve to close, smoke will come out that end. Was smoking coming out, with the vent shut valve closed?
 

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Old 07-14-2021, 12:02 PM
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Oh, I see, I didn't realize that the drain valve was normally closed. I have a Ancel AD510 scan tool that says it can perform EVAP tests but when I try to run it on the Accord it says it is not compatible and will not run the EVAP test, so I don't think there is a way to close the valve. I did see smoke coming out the gas cap when I ran the smoke test so I am assuming there is an issue with the cap not sealing. I am hoping that is my problem, I didn't see smoke anywhere else other than the large drain hose, but that would make sense it the valve was open,

Thank you very much for your help.
 
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Old 07-16-2021, 04:33 PM
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The brute force way to close the vent-shut valve is to unplug it from the wiring harness. Energize it with some wires directly to the battery, or any source of 12v for that matter.
 
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