94 Accord EX - ABS throws code 1-3
#12
Thanks to both of you for all the help ...
@ TexasHonda
Ya, it would take you 20 minutes to pull it ... more like many hours for me. All those hard-lines look like hard work to me (I've never done any brake work before). But your info was what I needed to know.
@ PAHonda
I don't know how you find all these docs, but you are doing a great job! That one also includes a good description of the bleeding. Maybe the picture I posted is not as good as I thought it was, but my accumulator looks ruptured/damaged to me.
I see what you guys are saying. Go buy a used one, install it, see if it works. If not, un-install it, maybe make a good whole one from the 2 I have now ... or maybe take it back and get another. I don't know ... it just seems like a lot of work to me. I like using new parts. I would go to the junk yard for a door handle or something (maybe even a computer module) but this thing seems like a different animal to me.
Please don't think your posts are not helpful because they are. I still have the 2004 v6 which I plan to have for a long time still and we are getting ready to buy an Acura SH-AWD SUV or a nice Pilot. I like working on cars and hope to get better at it as I gain some experience.
@ TexasHonda
Ya, it would take you 20 minutes to pull it ... more like many hours for me. All those hard-lines look like hard work to me (I've never done any brake work before). But your info was what I needed to know.
@ PAHonda
I don't know how you find all these docs, but you are doing a great job! That one also includes a good description of the bleeding. Maybe the picture I posted is not as good as I thought it was, but my accumulator looks ruptured/damaged to me.
I see what you guys are saying. Go buy a used one, install it, see if it works. If not, un-install it, maybe make a good whole one from the 2 I have now ... or maybe take it back and get another. I don't know ... it just seems like a lot of work to me. I like using new parts. I would go to the junk yard for a door handle or something (maybe even a computer module) but this thing seems like a different animal to me.
Please don't think your posts are not helpful because they are. I still have the 2004 v6 which I plan to have for a long time still and we are getting ready to buy an Acura SH-AWD SUV or a nice Pilot. I like working on cars and hope to get better at it as I gain some experience.
Last edited by Tesla; 03-18-2012 at 10:40 PM.
#13
The reason I suggest the junkyard is that my 95 EX had 240K miles when I sold it and it still had the original abs modulator in it.
With that corrosion in your picture, you accumulator o-ring may have been slowly leaking for a while to cause that to happen.
If you go to a U-Pull-It junkyard, you can look at the ABS modulators for signs of leaking like yours. I would consider replacing the o-ring before installing the replacement unit, since you will have it removed.
There is another TSB out there about tightening some plugs on the unit. This is more for a leaking abs unit, but your fluid level was good.
With that corrosion in your picture, you accumulator o-ring may have been slowly leaking for a while to cause that to happen.
If you go to a U-Pull-It junkyard, you can look at the ABS modulators for signs of leaking like yours. I would consider replacing the o-ring before installing the replacement unit, since you will have it removed.
There is another TSB out there about tightening some plugs on the unit. This is more for a leaking abs unit, but your fluid level was good.
#14
Removing the modulator is easy. Here's the recipe.
1) release the tubing guides that constrain the tubings and release electrical connections
2) Loosen/release the tubing nuts (6?)
3) Release the two end bolts retaining the modulator to body
4) Remove the modulator.
I agree w/ PA on just replacing oring on your modulator to start. If that doesn't work, then try swapping modulators.
I had to splice two modulators together to fix my daughter's Acura CL. Here's had leaking internal valves and my $25 modulator had frozen motor. Her motor and used modulator were still working fine when she sold the car.
As PA pointed out, a good one will last life of vehicle.
good luck
1) release the tubing guides that constrain the tubings and release electrical connections
2) Loosen/release the tubing nuts (6?)
3) Release the two end bolts retaining the modulator to body
4) Remove the modulator.
I agree w/ PA on just replacing oring on your modulator to start. If that doesn't work, then try swapping modulators.
I had to splice two modulators together to fix my daughter's Acura CL. Here's had leaking internal valves and my $25 modulator had frozen motor. Her motor and used modulator were still working fine when she sold the car.
As PA pointed out, a good one will last life of vehicle.
good luck
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