96 Accord LX Wagon Timing Belt Damage Question
#22
Installed a new balance shaft seal awhile back in the process and didn't notice how bad I apparently mangled it driving it in. Installing the new seal retainer tonight I noticed it. It's about the one seal I don't have an extra of. I'm assuming this should be replaced, but I'm going to ask anyway. Will this leak as is? I think the tool I made out of a pipe was still sharp on one edge and pushing it in I gouged the one edge. The way these seals seal up, is it possible it will still function as designed?
Last edited by vfrman; 10-17-2015 at 02:41 AM.
#23
Hard to tell by the pic, it looks like just the face of the seal is messed up.....of course you know how much trouble it will be to have to change it later so you will have to make the call. Remember you can run the engine with the upper cover off to verify there are no leaks.
I personally would make a run to the parts store and get a new seal just so I didn't have to worry that I would have to tear everything back apart because I was wrong and the seal is leaking
I personally would make a run to the parts store and get a new seal just so I didn't have to worry that I would have to tear everything back apart because I was wrong and the seal is leaking
#24
Hard to tell by the pic, it looks like just the face of the seal is messed up.....of course you know how much trouble it will be to have to change it later so you will have to make the call. Remember you can run the engine with the upper cover off to verify there are no leaks.
I personally would make a run to the parts store and get a new seal just so I didn't have to worry that I would have to tear everything back apart because I was wrong and the seal is leaking
I personally would make a run to the parts store and get a new seal just so I didn't have to worry that I would have to tear everything back apart because I was wrong and the seal is leaking
Thanks for confirming my thoughts.
#25
So I think I'm drunk on information overload from reading every thread on timing belts.
I need to get the gears/pulley's all lined up to install the belts, but since the old belt broke, things are all out of whack.
My main issue (I think) is the rear balance shaft. I can spin and spin it and never get the dimple to line up at 5 O clock or so with the drill bit in place in the locking hole. Is it possible that when I had the oil pump out to replace the seal, that I reinstalled it incorrectly so it will NEVER line up at 5 o'clock with the drill bit in place? Some threads say it doesn't matter what orientation the dimple has, as long as the drill bit is locked in place.
In the pics, the belt is just loosely in place and the gears/pulley's may be out of synch a little when I took the pic.
So what I think I need is a step by step on where to start first as far as which gear to line up first? Crank? Cam? Balancer? Etc....Especially since old belt broke so it's likely not all in the proper orientation.
Thanks
I need to get the gears/pulley's all lined up to install the belts, but since the old belt broke, things are all out of whack.
My main issue (I think) is the rear balance shaft. I can spin and spin it and never get the dimple to line up at 5 O clock or so with the drill bit in place in the locking hole. Is it possible that when I had the oil pump out to replace the seal, that I reinstalled it incorrectly so it will NEVER line up at 5 o'clock with the drill bit in place? Some threads say it doesn't matter what orientation the dimple has, as long as the drill bit is locked in place.
In the pics, the belt is just loosely in place and the gears/pulley's may be out of synch a little when I took the pic.
So what I think I need is a step by step on where to start first as far as which gear to line up first? Crank? Cam? Balancer? Etc....Especially since old belt broke so it's likely not all in the proper orientation.
Thanks
Last edited by vfrman; 10-18-2015 at 04:04 PM.
#28
She's all back together. Drained gas tank, new gas, new coolant, plygs, wires, dist cap, rotor, hoses, thermostat, belts, and probably a bunch more I forgot about by now.
It turns over fine, it won't start (yet). Since it sat so long, is the fuel pump going to have a hard time repriming(?) itself? Take the gas cap off and I get a good whoosh so it must be building pressure? Just curious how log I can continue to crank "hoping" it just fires up?
Edit: Has spark at the plugs.
Edit: Also seems to have good pressure at the fuel rail when w I crack open the fitting
It turns over fine, it won't start (yet). Since it sat so long, is the fuel pump going to have a hard time repriming(?) itself? Take the gas cap off and I get a good whoosh so it must be building pressure? Just curious how log I can continue to crank "hoping" it just fires up?
Edit: Has spark at the plugs.
Edit: Also seems to have good pressure at the fuel rail when w I crack open the fitting
Last edited by vfrman; 10-26-2015 at 07:15 PM.
#30
IT'S ALIVE!!!
This one little ground wire was left unhooked. Bolted it down and she fired right up.
A few tweaks to play with. Belt's might be a little tight/loose.
Has some electrical gremlins it never had before. Not sure if loose battery, or I've got something else messed up somewhere. Step on the brake, the tach goes dead. windows super slow, dims the light, gauges bouncing all around.
I know I need to adjust the throttle/cruise control cable on the plenum because both of the little nuts are off, and just sliding wherever they want on the cable. Not the bigger adjusting nuts, but the tiny nuts under the rubber boots. I need to see what's up with that because I couldn't get then nuts to screw on and honestly don't know how they work. I didn't even know there were nuts under there. Also the cable seems loose. Gas pedal seems to bind up too so maybe tied to the slack, or those little nuts binding under the cable?
Project for tomorrow at this point. Just happy to hear it run nice and smooth. And hopefully not blow up or something in the first 5 miles.
Edit: This ground wire maybe wasn't supposed to be grounded in this particular bolt. Does anyone know where it was originally tied into? Maybe this is a rotten place to ground something, and it's causing all my erratic gauge behavior?
This one little ground wire was left unhooked. Bolted it down and she fired right up.
A few tweaks to play with. Belt's might be a little tight/loose.
Has some electrical gremlins it never had before. Not sure if loose battery, or I've got something else messed up somewhere. Step on the brake, the tach goes dead. windows super slow, dims the light, gauges bouncing all around.
I know I need to adjust the throttle/cruise control cable on the plenum because both of the little nuts are off, and just sliding wherever they want on the cable. Not the bigger adjusting nuts, but the tiny nuts under the rubber boots. I need to see what's up with that because I couldn't get then nuts to screw on and honestly don't know how they work. I didn't even know there were nuts under there. Also the cable seems loose. Gas pedal seems to bind up too so maybe tied to the slack, or those little nuts binding under the cable?
Project for tomorrow at this point. Just happy to hear it run nice and smooth. And hopefully not blow up or something in the first 5 miles.
Edit: This ground wire maybe wasn't supposed to be grounded in this particular bolt. Does anyone know where it was originally tied into? Maybe this is a rotten place to ground something, and it's causing all my erratic gauge behavior?