f22b2 or h22a
#12
RE: f22b2 or h22a
Go with the F22. F22's are far superior for boost. Heres why:
H22
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High compression ratio (how it gets its power) -- bad for boosting. increases predetonation. would have to run racing gas if turbo'd with a un-modified compression ratio. if you lowered the compression ratio, it would be nearly identical to the F22
high-tech cylinder walls (i forget the actual name) -- lighter, and more resistant to wear, but not as strong. You would have to resleeve an H22, but not an F22.
V-tec -- great for n/a. However at high RPM's vtec opens the exhaust valve and intake valve for longer periods of time. With a turbocharged engine, the backpressure from the exhaust can push back into the intake manifold if the intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time for an extended period of time (such as at high-rpms with vtec). You would have to swap out the Vtec camshaft for a V-tec eliminating camshaft ($$) designed for turbocharged engines, which completely negates the cost of buying a Vtec head.
F22
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inexpensive engine
already has a low compression ratio -- no need to change it
strong(er) cylinder walls, no need for re-sleeving or a block guard
No vtec, and as long as you had a free-flowing exhaust there would be no need for a new camshaft
Go with the F22.
H22
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High compression ratio (how it gets its power) -- bad for boosting. increases predetonation. would have to run racing gas if turbo'd with a un-modified compression ratio. if you lowered the compression ratio, it would be nearly identical to the F22
high-tech cylinder walls (i forget the actual name) -- lighter, and more resistant to wear, but not as strong. You would have to resleeve an H22, but not an F22.
V-tec -- great for n/a. However at high RPM's vtec opens the exhaust valve and intake valve for longer periods of time. With a turbocharged engine, the backpressure from the exhaust can push back into the intake manifold if the intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time for an extended period of time (such as at high-rpms with vtec). You would have to swap out the Vtec camshaft for a V-tec eliminating camshaft ($$) designed for turbocharged engines, which completely negates the cost of buying a Vtec head.
F22
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inexpensive engine
already has a low compression ratio -- no need to change it
strong(er) cylinder walls, no need for re-sleeving or a block guard
No vtec, and as long as you had a free-flowing exhaust there would be no need for a new camshaft
Go with the F22.
#14
RE: f22b2 or h22a
so in going with an f22 then could i still get close to 400+hp?
like that 634 hp accord in japan or wherever its at, its got the h22 in it. why i was gonna go with h22 in the first place but yeah now that makes sense high compression h22 good for na but lowering it would make it like the f22. what all would i have to do to push 400+hp in the accord with an f22?
like that 634 hp accord in japan or wherever its at, its got the h22 in it. why i was gonna go with h22 in the first place but yeah now that makes sense high compression h22 good for na but lowering it would make it like the f22. what all would i have to do to push 400+hp in the accord with an f22?
#15
RE: f22b2 or h22a
ORIGINAL: legal
so in going with an f22 then could i still get close to 400+hp?
so in going with an f22 then could i still get close to 400+hp?
pistons
rods
bearings
cams
valves
valve springs
retainers
etc etc etc you get the idea.
then run 110 octane $10 a gallon gas.
#16
RE: f22b2 or h22a
ew. lol.
whats a reasonable amount of hp i can get with the f22?
like enough to keep up or beat the acura rsx type s, cars in that class.
300+ 350+?
something to where im not pushing 10$ per gallon gas lmao
whats a reasonable amount of hp i can get with the f22?
like enough to keep up or beat the acura rsx type s, cars in that class.
300+ 350+?
something to where im not pushing 10$ per gallon gas lmao
#17
RE: f22b2 or h22a
ORIGINAL: legal
ew. lol.
whats a reasonable amount of hp i can get with the f22?
like enough to keep up or beat the acura rsx type s, cars in that class.
300+ 350+?
something to where im not pushing 10$ per gallon gas lmao
ew. lol.
whats a reasonable amount of hp i can get with the f22?
like enough to keep up or beat the acura rsx type s, cars in that class.
300+ 350+?
something to where im not pushing 10$ per gallon gas lmao
I dont think you realize how much 300-350hp is in a front wheel drive car. thats enough to spin at least through third and starting to become unpractical for a streetable car.
#18
RE: f22b2 or h22a
damn. lol your right i dont have any idea how much it is.
so what should i do?
get str8 h22a i/h/e
or turbo my f22?
if you dont mind.
could you like give me a good setup idea for my car to make it quicker?
250 - 300 hp range
so what should i do?
get str8 h22a i/h/e
or turbo my f22?
if you dont mind.
could you like give me a good setup idea for my car to make it quicker?
250 - 300 hp range
#19
RE: f22b2 or h22a
Rebuilt block
Rebuilt Head
Port and Polish all around
Turbo to 15 psi
Performace 3" exhaust
Intercooler of course
All the fuel managment tools and everything to go with your turbo
H22 Tranny or I;ve heard the F23 is good i think.. I've never driven it.
Stage 1 or 2 clutch
Udjastable Cam Pulley
Performance Cam
Not sure what that would get you but its a start
then paint some flames on the hood or somethign for an extra 10-15 HP
Rebuilt Head
Port and Polish all around
Turbo to 15 psi
Performace 3" exhaust
Intercooler of course
All the fuel managment tools and everything to go with your turbo
H22 Tranny or I;ve heard the F23 is good i think.. I've never driven it.
Stage 1 or 2 clutch
Udjastable Cam Pulley
Performance Cam
Not sure what that would get you but its a start
then paint some flames on the hood or somethign for an extra 10-15 HP