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Failed MFR versus ECU versus Fuel Pump?

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Old 08-02-2012, 09:30 PM
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Barring an unlikely bad wire between the pump and the main relay, the next step is checking the main relay inputs, p. 11-96 in the FSM. You've got voltage testing down pat; when it says to check for continuity, set the meter to the lowest Ω setting. Touching the leads together should give zero or at the most a few ohms. That's what you should be seeing when checking for continuity in the manual's troubleshooting steps.

Make sure the ground on the intake manifold is clean and tight.
 
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:38 PM
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I would apply battery power to the fuel pump, to confirm that it works or not while you're in the area.
 

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Old 08-02-2012, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EXV6NIGHTHAWK
I would apply battery power to the fuel pump, to confirm that it works or not while you're in the area.
Yeah, I wondered about doing that. . .how would one do that? Obviously I've got the ground right there, but I've got this three - pronged harness for the red (hot). Suggestions anyone?
 
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:00 AM
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Better to read the wiring diagram yourself than trust someone else. Postive lead should be Blk/yel to fuel pump.

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Old 08-05-2012, 12:10 PM
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the shop manual says no fuel problem is caused by: injector resistor, fuel filter, fuel pump, or main relay. since you don't hear the pump and your 2 main relays a wacky double check your fuel pump install/main relay at the same time here:

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if you need the full shop manual get it from hondahookup.com
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:18 PM
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Alright ya'll, now I'm just full blown confused. Here's what's gone down today. You tell me what your opinion is.

I returned back to the fuel pump, making sure I did the test properly. I didn't have a helper with me at first, so I decided to jump the wires like the shop manual advised. I took OUT the main fuel relay and jumped two wires -- black/yellow and red/white. Then I went back and tested: black to body ground at the fuel pump and red to black/yellow at the fuel pump -- boom, 11 - ish volts reading with the key turned on. Incidentally, I noticed that with the fuel relay removed and these wires jumped, I got a steady on CEL and a blinking D4 light.

Okay, so now I'm thinking bad fuel pump. So I go back, put the fuel relay back IN (removing the jumper wires, of course). This is a NEW fuel relay. Got my helper out there, told them to turn the key to "II" (on). Got the same, steady - on CEL that I've always had and the blinking D4. Note that this is the same as I got with the wires jumped. In addition, with the same testing procedure as above at the fuel pump -- got NOTHING. Maybe 0.4 volts. I figured while I was back there I'd test the other two leads coming into the wire harness. On one of them I got 11 - ish volts and at the other I got 6 - ish. But again, note, whereas with the jumped wires I got 11 - ish volts at the Black/Yellow, with the MFR in place and a helper, I got NONE.

So now I got no idea. Any ideas?? I'll take any suggestion.

Someone suggested I test the fuel pump while I'm back there. What do I do, just run two wires directly from the battery to the wire harness for the fuel pump???

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:14 PM
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did the fuel pump make noise when you jumped the Main relay and turned the ignition on?
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:21 PM
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Here is the online manual thread where you can go to honda-tech site and get a 94 shop manual:

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...-manuals-4597/

Here is my writeup on retrieving codes:

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...l-codes-35962/

You still haven't told us what code(s) if any flashed from either the check engine light or the D4 light.

I would check for voltage at the proper pins for the main relay. See page 11-96.
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:27 PM
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To clarify, no noise from the pump under either condition, however, keep in mind that with the jumped test and the non jumped, I was testing the voltage at the connection harness in the trunk -- the harness was disconnected from the pump anyway. I haven't attempted to directly jump the pump itself. . .don't know how, I am ashamed to say. Suggestions?
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:28 PM
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By the way, PA, that's where I was going to go next...I had decided to return back to the pump to make sure I had done the test correctly.
 


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