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Old 07-08-2024, 02:07 PM
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97 accord OBD2 want to bump timing up a bit but manual says I can't because the PCM controls the timing, and the dizzy isn't slotted so I can't turn it to advance or retard timing.
Would any of these ideas work? #genius
1) Drill out the bolt holes on the dizzy so they are slotted, so I can turn it to adjust
2) skip a tooth on the timing belt
3) adjustable cam gear
4) if I convert to od1, will I need to swap the dizzy to an obd1 dizzy?
5) $400 jet chip that says it adjusts timing
​​​​​6) 440 chrysler swap rwd reverse trike conversion with a Harley swing arm and go efff myself
 
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Old 07-08-2024, 09:19 PM
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Why not put the 440 Chrysler in the back and use the Honda motor as the starter for it. I think the PCM is where you are headed.
 
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Old 07-09-2024, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kris_loehr
Why not put the 440 Chrysler in the back and use the Honda motor as the starter for it. I think the PCM is where you are headed.
​​​​​so I've got to get an obd1 automatic accord ECU, and a obd1 automatic Integra pcu. chip the teg pcu and tune it, then wire it to the obd1 automatic accord pcu to run the trans. I am 100% new to tuning. my background is carbs and small blocks. Caveman stuff.
 
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Old 07-09-2024, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by kris_loehr
Why not put the 440 Chrysler in the back and use the Honda motor as the starter for it. I think the PCM is where you are headed.
And before all that, I've got to convert to obd1. It's like, would it just be easier to do a manual swap and put a obd1 manual teg ECU in it?
The Honda engine as a starter for a 440 made me laugh.
 
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Old 07-10-2024, 11:26 PM
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I think you'll have to go the PCM route as well. If you mess with the distributor or cams, I'll assume the PCM will go into limp mode as it won't be able to adjust timing.

Why do you want to advance the timing?
 
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Old 07-11-2024, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PAhonda
I think you'll have to go the PCM route as well. If you mess with the distributor or cams, I'll assume the PCM will go into limp mode as it won't be able to adjust timing.

Why do you want to advance the timing?
I've got a intake, header, and full exhaust and want to squeeze a few more horsepower out of it without a tune.
 
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Old 07-11-2024, 01:46 PM
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In my opinion, I don't think it is worth the risk of doing the timing advance how you want to do it, because it can cause more headaches vs the minimal gain in hp you could get. The stock PCM could actually adjust where you lose HP if you change the physical timing of the engine.

Big gains in HP for the F22 is to do an engine swap to a H22 or the japanese F20B (I think).
 
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