'New' 1996 Honda Accord Sedan :D
#11
07-10-2013, 05:50 PM
Just for an idea I found a guy with this set up that made these numbers on the dyno:
176whp 142tq
Generic short ram
Extrude Hone A6 Manifold
50lb/hr injectors
Ferrera Valves
Crower Dual Valve Springs/Titanium Retainers
Delta Regrind
12.5 Wiseco Pistons
Crower Rods
Darton Sleeves
Kamikaze Header
AEM EMS tuned.
That is less hp than a stock h22, with thousands more into it. Not that the H22 is the most reliable engine in the world.
Here is some inspiration for you:
Hes running 17:1 compression in it.
There is an old saying in the car world: cheap fast reliable, choose any two.
176whp 142tq
Generic short ram
Extrude Hone A6 Manifold
50lb/hr injectors
Ferrera Valves
Crower Dual Valve Springs/Titanium Retainers
Delta Regrind
12.5 Wiseco Pistons
Crower Rods
Darton Sleeves
Kamikaze Header
AEM EMS tuned.
That is less hp than a stock h22, with thousands more into it. Not that the H22 is the most reliable engine in the world.
Here is some inspiration for you:
Hes running 17:1 compression in it.
There is an old saying in the car world: cheap fast reliable, choose any two.
#12
07-12-2013, 04:44 PM
I guess the question is what do you want the goals are for this car with upgrades.
I don't think that you gain much from the CAI and you risk getting water into the engine and possibly hydrolocking it.
Since this is your daily driver, I would suggest leaving it stock for now. You may want to go to a junkyard and get a stock air intake.
Inspect the suspension, like tie-rods, ball joints, CV joint, etc... Make sure the car is sound, then consider upgrades. Shocks/springs aren't a bad place to start and tires.
At 156k miles, your engine has a lot of life left, if you keep up the maintenance. If you have engine problems, upgrading to a H22 engine would get you to 200 hp (from 145 on the vtec). That swap is common and there is a lot of information out there about the swap.
I don't think that you gain much from the CAI and you risk getting water into the engine and possibly hydrolocking it.
Since this is your daily driver, I would suggest leaving it stock for now. You may want to go to a junkyard and get a stock air intake.
Inspect the suspension, like tie-rods, ball joints, CV joint, etc... Make sure the car is sound, then consider upgrades. Shocks/springs aren't a bad place to start and tires.
At 156k miles, your engine has a lot of life left, if you keep up the maintenance. If you have engine problems, upgrading to a H22 engine would get you to 200 hp (from 145 on the vtec). That swap is common and there is a lot of information out there about the swap.
I do need to get some new shocks and bushings not to mention changing the oil pan gasket, so those are the only maintenance that my car requires as of now.
#14
07-12-2013, 06:30 PM
Not a problem. With any build it is always best to lay out what your goals are, and what your budget it. Say your goal is 200whp and $3,000, then look at your options are for achieving that.
Personally I have had F series and H series. I had terrible luck with H series. I blew 3 of them in just a few years. They love to burn oil. I would never run a H22 again. But I know people that have had good luck with H22s.
For me to go way back in time to 2006 when I first got my Accord I would have boosted it. Cost about the same as a H22 swap, makes more power, is more fun, and if you blow the F22 its only a few hundred for a replacement where as H22s are in the $700-1000 range.
F22s love boost, with 8.8:1 compression stock and steel cylinder walls compared to the H22s FRM sleeves its like they were made for a turbo.
Personally I have had F series and H series. I had terrible luck with H series. I blew 3 of them in just a few years. They love to burn oil. I would never run a H22 again. But I know people that have had good luck with H22s.
For me to go way back in time to 2006 when I first got my Accord I would have boosted it. Cost about the same as a H22 swap, makes more power, is more fun, and if you blow the F22 its only a few hundred for a replacement where as H22s are in the $700-1000 range.
F22s love boost, with 8.8:1 compression stock and steel cylinder walls compared to the H22s FRM sleeves its like they were made for a turbo.
#15
07-15-2013, 06:25 PM
Thanks live2rice, you have amazing input. I have some goals laid out but it's not as detailed as they should be.
You see I am the type of guy that likes doing projects, however, that is my flaw as well. I get so consumed with projects that before I know it I am swamped with projects and projects.
But I will definitely be looking into boosting the F22.
You see I am the type of guy that likes doing projects, however, that is my flaw as well. I get so consumed with projects that before I know it I am swamped with projects and projects.
But I will definitely be looking into boosting the F22.
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