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New timing belt 500 miles ago, but looks like it just broke.

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Old 08-31-2012 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony1M
Then it's even more of a sad story.

If you cannot afford to even talk to an lawyer, you may want to walk into the dealership and discuss your experience with the manager of the place. As you walk into the dealership to talk to the local manager, you can ask the receptionist at the front of the dealership to please give you the name of the owner(s) of the dealership.

As you explain your situation to the manager, be polite, but be thorough in your explanation of the details of your experience, particularly emphasizing your bringing in the noisy vehicle after the timing belt job, but before the failure on the highway.

If the local manager does not offer you at least some compensation such as "we'll split the cost of the additional work with you", before your conversation ends, tell him that you intend to send a detailed complaint via registered mail to the owner(s) of the dealership, whose name you can now state, while asking the manager if that person is indeed the right person to contact. You can ask him if he'd like you to mail a copy of the complaint to him.

Then write the letter and send it via registered mail to the owner. State in the letter that if you are not satisfied by his response that you will contact both Honda USA and the local Better Business Bureau.

The above are inexpensive steps that may save you a pile of dough in the end.

Again, sorry for all your trouble. Honda Accords are good cars but they need good maintenance, just like any other car.
My personal experience is that Honda USA is not very helpful and combative at times. I asked for a goodwill repair that was a several miles over the warranty (I actually took it in before the warranty expired but the MIL was out at that time). They refused and argued that goodwill was a made up word by consumers. However, clearly in the TSB issued by Honda it mentioned that "goodwill consideration by the District Manager or your Zone Office." I called Honda back again later and they were even more combative when I pointed out their own wording in their TSB. I am enjoying my Accord but this will probably be my last Honda (after my family has owned at least 5 Hondas).

Personally, I would probably take it a different shop if you are unhappy. Then I would post bad reviews on Yelp, Google, Angies List, Consumer Checkbook, etc. I know a couple mechanics who worked at Honda dealerships and they mentioned some of their shady practices (such as being forced to get cars out of their shop that the problem wasnt solved/not taking responsibility for their mistakes/etc.)
 
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Old 08-31-2012 | 11:07 PM
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Give the dealership a call and find out why the rocker arms were moving and try to get a better explanation of exactly what went wrong.
 
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Old 09-12-2012 | 10:28 AM
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Anything new?
 
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Old 09-12-2012 | 11:19 AM
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I have seen camshafts break in the middle.. and I have also seen them "catch" after broken, and turn for a moment then "skip" before anothe revolution and catches again.

IF.. it broke... there's no way someone changing a timing belt can tell the furture of the camshaft and if it's going to break or not.. You do not remove the valve cover to change a timing belt.

I just don't understand this either:
You ask them to push the car out.. and show you, then you didn't ask where it was broke when you were looking right at it... or what did they think was the cause of it. that doesn't make sense to me.

anyway... I hope you get to the root of the honesty.. and let us know if it's really a fault of the shop or just results in "things break" for no apparent reason.
 
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Old 09-12-2012 | 12:00 PM
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Yeah, catching and turning; I didn't think about it happening that way. I've heard of broken camshafts, but I've never had one actually break in my cars.
 
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Old 09-12-2012 | 10:44 PM
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I have seen a few break..but most times it was because of a resurfaced head with the cam out.. then when the reinstall it.. it binds the cam.. and sometime later.. it will snap..

correct resurface to head is with camshaft installed and torqued in place
 
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