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Old 07-05-2006 | 05:03 PM
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Sounds weird but it's true. I have a 91 EX 5 speed sedan with 172K and when the A/C is on and I'm in town I have major brake fade. I mean the pedal goes to the floor. It will start with a pedal but goes soft almost immediately and then to the floor leaving me with no brakes. If I turn the A/C off and wait, brakes are back to normal with no fade at all. Does this sound like a booster going bad or what the hell is wrong with my car????? Any and all help is obviously appreciated and desperately needed.
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Old 07-05-2006 | 06:15 PM
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do you have a vaccum leak? A/C places a load on engine and may be just enough to kill off the brakes due vaccum leak or a bad booster
 
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Old 07-05-2006 | 07:41 PM
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just to make sure but you have a full fluid resevoir and no brake fluid leaks correct? If that's the case then just to make sure but you have no other brake issues unless the A/C is on?
 
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Old 07-05-2006 | 09:07 PM
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do you have a vaccum leak? A/C places a load on engine and may be just enough to kill off the brakes due vaccum leak or a bad booster
That would cause the pedal to get hard, wouldn't cause it to go to the floor. Probably has a bad master cylinder.
 
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Old 07-05-2006 | 09:47 PM
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Yeah, if a vacuum leak was the cause, the pedal would just get super hard to push. It sounds like a master cylinder to me too.
 
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Old 07-06-2006 | 10:50 AM
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No leaks, just no brakes when the A/C is on for a bit. I drove 550 miles with the A/C on before but it was all highway and I had no problems. I had to let the car sit running with the A/C on for about 15-20 minutes waiting for my wife and when I pulled out I had the brake problems. After driving with the A/C off it went away.
 
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Old 07-06-2006 | 10:55 AM
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well it would sink the the floor first right?
 
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Old 07-06-2006 | 11:49 AM
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The brakes at first feel fine but the pedal continues to the floor. When I hit the brake pedal I get a strong pedal for about a half second or so then it continues to the floor and NO BRAKES, AHHH!!!! THAT SUCKS BIG TIME!
 
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Old 07-06-2006 | 04:32 PM
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it should be ur master cylinder, fix it and the problem should go away, i have the same problem until i change the master clylinder
 
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Old 07-06-2006 | 04:50 PM
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is it the master cylinder itself or is it possible to just replace the seals? Anyone know? I'm sure replacing the seals would save you some monster cash...
 



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