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Old 07-09-2010 | 09:20 PM
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Yeah, I haven't used Duralast belts, but I've used non-dealer ones. Gates, I think. Honda doesn't manufacture belts, but I don't know which companies make them for Honda.
 
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Old 07-12-2010 | 10:46 PM
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Hey guys,
I got the new adjuster nut from the dealer today so I went ahead and swapped out the water pump and timing belts. The manual I have calls for using a 6 x 100mm bolt to locate and hold the rear balancer while installing the balancer belt, but I ended up using a 15/64th drill bit instead, which worked fine. I am guessing a #2 phillips screwdriver would also work, but it may be a smidgen too big.

I ran out of time, but at this point I need only reassemble everything I took apart, refill with antifreeze and fire it up.

If the engine runs good, I'll contemplate repairing the A/C system. I know it needs a new condenser, receiver/dryer, possibly a couple of lines and new seals. Converting to R134a has already been partially done, but I'd want to flush a few things before refilling with ester oil and refrigerant. The compressor is really buried and difficult to get to. I'm guessing it will cost me around $300 if I repair/recharge the system myself. I'll need to borrow/rent the vacuum compressor and pressure manifold to do the job. With all the heat we have had in New York State lately, I'm inclined to fix the A/C.

I'm guessing that I've saved over $1000 so far by doing the work on this car myself. Hopefully I've done it all correctly. For a car that has lived in the rust belt for 20 years, it is in excellent condition.

Dave
 
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Old 07-12-2010 | 11:22 PM
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On a lot of items the difference between getting OEM Honda at Majestic Honda vs aftermarket isn’t that different in price, so I get Honda. Someone on here posted that they have seen aftermarket timing belts with the wrong number of teeth.
 
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Old 07-13-2010 | 10:57 AM
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... Someone on here posted that they have seen aftermarket timing belts with the wrong number of teeth.
Seems more likely that the store fumbled a part number for the belt. Cant imagine it REALLY having the wrong number of teeth.
 
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Old 07-13-2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kris_loehr
On a lot of items the difference between getting OEM Honda at Majestic Honda vs aftermarket isn’t that different in price, so I get Honda. Someone on here posted that they have seen aftermarket timing belts with the wrong number of teeth.
As a general rule, I compare the old/new belts before I put them on. I'm sure that most of you do that as well. Of course, the belts I have looked fine or I wouldn't have installed them.

I'm going to only have a little time to work on the car today, so I doubt I'll get it done. Sigh.

Dave
 
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Old 07-13-2010 | 01:08 PM
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I bought my timing and balancer belts at autozone (Duralast). I've been browsing around here and I saw that OEM belts were recommended. Should I return the belts I have and get the OEM belts from a dealer? If so, why (because I'm curious that way).
Since the price is not much different, there is no reason to use non-honda parts. I bought battery from Honda dealer, no reason, the price from dealer is a few dollars cheaper. The battery capacity may be a little less but for my car, it is powerful enough. The first battery in the car since new lasted many years so I expect the 2nd battery will do the same thing. The 2nd reason why I stick to Honda parts is its high quality. I just replaced my timing belt. The timing belt and balance belt were in the car for 13 years and near 100K miles. I do not see much difference compare to the new belts I bought from Honda. I am very impressed. I showed these belts to my neighbors, they all impressed. The last reason is you know, if you buy from Honda, the parts will be always fit and work.
 
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Old 07-13-2010 | 06:09 PM
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That was me that got a belt with an extra tooth when compared to my honda belt.

I was in such a rush to get the job done, that I went to my local honda dealership and got an OEM one. I might have received the wrong aftermarket belt.

I just suggest to mark the original belt and gears with whiteout, then count/mark the teeth on the new one to ensure the new belt will work. Plus it can't hurt to have an extra set of marks to work with.
 

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Old 07-13-2010 | 08:31 PM
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I didn’t mean to start a debate I was just mentioning when the prices are close it may be worth buying from Honda. I don’t know about now, but way back when…when I worked at a dealership some parts were cheaper to get from the dealership than aftermarket. I have trouble with unknown brands such as store brands which I know nothing about and generally can’t find any information on. With a big job I like to know the quality of what is going into the job. I try to find out the brands Honda uses and go with that if the price difference is worth it such as O2 Sensors.
 
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Old 07-13-2010 | 08:54 PM
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Yes, I normally compart parts prices. Sometimes the dealer IS cheaper.
 
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Old 07-14-2010 | 09:13 PM
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Hi all,
I just wanted to let you all know that the car is back together and running better than before the work. The annoying tick is gone - which was likely due to the valve adjustment.

No leaks, no rubbing and no leftover parts.

Time to think about repairing the A/C.

Dave
 



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