If the above was in reference to me, please reread what I said. It was not an arguement in any way shape or form in favor of illegal immigration. I was merely pointing out that in fact they do pay some taxes. Earlier statements made it sound as if though illegals paid ZERO taxes and I was just clarifying.


Moving forward...if we want to stop illegal immigrants businesses need to stop employing them. Heavy monetary fines need to be imposed on businesses who hire illegals. Once these illegals have no source for income they will stop coming in droves. We as a people also need to stop employing them to do our landscaping, housekeeping, and babysitting.

And anchor babies.....grrr...that's all I can say without getting edited by an adminstrator = P

 

FINALLY! (Its wierd how now 2 articles have been written about this the same time as we have discussed this!)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17594081/

Cracking down at the border
Agents say ‘Operation Streamline’ puts teeth behind immigration laws[/align]By Don Teague[/align]
[/align]EAGLE PASS, Texas - Just across the border from Eagle Pass, five men are waiting to sneak across the Rio Grande."I'm scared of drowning," says one. They fear the river, but not the U.S. Border Patrol. Some have been caught before and were simply sent back to Mexico to try again."Everything was normal," says another man. "They did not treat me bad."What they don't know is agents on this 200-mile stretch of border are under new orders called "Operation Streamline." Undocumented immigrants, like these men, are now prosecuted.Before Operation Streamline, those caught crossing the border would have probably been sent right back to Mexico. Now they'll see a judge within 48 hours and then spend at least two weeks in jail. They are convicted of misdemeanors in mass trials. Those caught multiple times could spend months in jail.It's a policy the Border Patrol says is deterring illegal crossings."If they are sitting in jail for several months, they are not able to send money back home, and in the meantime, their family goes without," says Dean Sinclair, department chief of the Del Rio sector.Since Operation Streamline went into effect just over a year ago, arrests in the Del Rio sector have dropped 37 percent. "By sending the message to the folks that are crossing that you are going to be arrested, you're not just going to get let loose," says agent Kathlyn Lawrence, "it kind of discouraged them from crossing with the frequency that they were crossing. That has freed us up to be able to look more for the possible terrorism elements."But critics claim the undocumented immigrants are being coerced to plead guilty to a law they don't understand."They are then convicted in these sham proceedings in which they are given one, maybe two minutes in front of the judge, and to call that due process is shameful," says Jennifer Chang, with the American Civil Liberties Union Immigrant's Rights Project.The Border Patrol says it's simply enforcing existing law and putting teeth behind what immigrants had once considered little more than a game

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17594081/

 

I have a few things to say.
The argument that illegals do the jobs that nobody else does, is and will always be BS.

I grew up in North Carolina. At the ages of 10-15 I was raking lawns, mowing grass, and doing yardwork with friends then splitting the profits.
When I moved to California, I could not get a job mowing lawns or cleaning gutters or doing any kind of cash handywork because there was always someone who would do it for cheaper.
Illegal immigrants, since they cannot work jobs that require citizenship are forced to do jobs that either low economical class people or youths do.

I bet there are TONS of 15 year old boys who would love to drive tractors and pick fruit for a quick cash buck. Those jobs are never going to be taxed, so talking about taxes for agricultural jobs is a moot point. Child labor laws were specifically designed with people who worked on farms and in agriculture in mind. The age limit and hour limit does not apply for agricultural work.

There are tons of young boys who would love to mow a lawn or clean out some gutters for 20 bucks. That 20 bucks is disposable income because mommy pays your bills. This generates income for video game companies, amusement parks, movie theaters, skateparks, and things that are considered luxuries. Things you do for fun as a kid. Instead of fueling the economy, that 20 dollars is being sent back south of the border.

Mexico is one of the only countries I have been to where I have been treated poorly by the native populace. When I traveled eastern europe, latvia, lithuania, estonia, and the like everybody that I encountered was very curteous, who were eager to show me things. Irish people are some of the nicest i've met. Of course everyone is trying to make money off of you so it is necessary to watch your back no matter where you are, but when I traveled to mexico i was assaulted on the street by a local for no reason, robbed by the police ($200), and scammed by bartenders and hotels.

 

i never thought of this..... texans have guns...... why dont you hear of illegal immigrants crossing the border and getting shot?

sorry.... i think its funny ^_^

 

lol Because there are so many in a group. Plus it is illegal... Bah, I with the Minutemen Project were allowed that. They are doing what our gov't wont do and its for free. If I lived in Texas I would be a part of that orginization asap.